In today's episode, Jan interviews John Harrison who's the Senior Director of Engineering at Lucid, which is the parent company of two cloud-based visual productivity solutions: Lucidchart and Lucidpress with $166.1M funding under its belt.

We're going to discuss how John started at Lucid, how he currently goes about organizing his 30 development teams, and why hiring  UX resources is a bigger bottleneck than hiring engineers for Lucid.

Check out Lucid over here and connect with John on his socials.